Are We Sure We Want Black Sites in America? Alongside the Palantir AI Police State Control Grid?

Andrew Anglin July 6, 2025

The topic of the day is the fact that Donald Trump and his people have built a half billion dollar detention facility in a nature preserve in Florida. They are calling it “Alligator Alcatraz,” because I guess there are alligators in the swamp and you know, alliteration (the kids love it).

It’s funny to put immigrants in a swamp full of alligators.

But… are we talking about an American black site?

To be clear, a “black site” is defined as “a clandestine detention center operated by a state where prisoners who have not been charged with a crime are incarcerated without due process or court order.”

Is that something we really want to be doing? Building these types of sites in remote and potentially secret locations?

Please note that the Trump administration is also sending immigrants to Gitmo, the infamous black site in Cuba where the US spent decades torturing people it had kidnapped from various countries. Trump says he wants to hold 30,000 people there. Again, no one is explaining why they are not just sent back to their home countries. The US has an absolute ability to exert pressure on countries to accept the return of their people.

What exactly is even the purpose? We have jails. We have all of the leverage to deport people. We can make some concentration camp type holding facilities, just with modular homes and fences, and put them near the border. Wouldn’t that make more sense?

I’m not against putting immigrants in camps or cages or whatever. But another issue with this is that it only holds 5,000 people, which isn’t really a very relevant number when we are talking about at least 50 million people who are eligible for deportation.

Further, the costs of flying people to this remote location, and holding them there – that doesn’t make any sense at all to me. Again, you can quickly construct concentration camps in areas where immigrants can just be bussed in and processed. We can figure out where they’re going and send them there.

I don’t want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but what this looks like to me is that we are normalizing the idea of black sites in America. Because this place, this Alligator Alcatraz, would make a lot more sense as a secret prison for Americans than as an immigrant detention facility. As an immigrant detention facility, it is incredibly expensive, elaborate, inefficient, and generally confusing.

I’ve written some about the Trump administration’s relationship with Palantir. Thankfully, others are writing and podcasting about this issue as well. Basically, the administration is contracting this intelligence and military tech company to design a control grid in America, and when asked about it, the Trump people just claim it is for immigrants. But no one is even claiming that only immigrants will be included in these AI databases that are going to monitor everyone. Palantir is building and has basically already built and is now just implementing a surveillance grid run by AI that compiles all information on you, both from the government and from private companies (i.e., Google and Facebook, and the banks), which is set up to build a profile on you that knows everything about you. It’s a total science fiction dystopian nightmare plan that few people are even bothering to talk about.

This Glenn Greenwald video is a good overview.

Palantir is a totally Jewish company which is involved heavily in the genocide in Gaza. The company’s Jewish CEO, Alex Karp, makes very edgy jokes about how he wants to kill the families of antisemites.

I don’t personally have very much faith in any speech guarantees provided by the US government. The Biden administration violated the First Amendment by ordering “private” tech companies to censor speech, and the Trump administration has done things much more illegal than that, passing all of these laws against “antisemitism.” Trump arrested and attempted to deport a green card holder for not supporting Israel. He says he’s going to deport anyone who doesn’t support Israel, regardless if they have a green card or not. Thus far, no one has been able to explain to me how a green card holder’s constitutional rights vary from those of a US citizen.

There is a lot of legal precedent for this you can look up. The Supreme Court ruled previously that an Australian communist with a green card couldn’t be deported for being a communist because a green card holder is protected by the Bill of Rights.

Listen, I’m the most anti-immigration person of all. If Trump said “we’re stripping all green card holders of their green cards and deporting them all tomorrow,” I would support that completely. But when you start claiming that you are taking specific rights from people who have rights under the US Constitution, you’re creating a very confusing legal situation.

He has also effectively seized federal control of universities in order to prevent students or faculty from criticizing Jews. He’s attempting to equate protesting against Israel with “material support for terrorism.” It’s all the exact same “safe spaces” and “speech is violence” language that was used by the Democrats in support of BLM and trannies, but Trump is taking it much further than Democrats ever did.

Further, the Biden administration was mocked relentlessly for their “Disinformation Governance Board,” a government board designed to monitor supposed “disinformation” on the internet, run by Nina Jankowicz. They ended up abolishing the organization after a couple months. Yet “monitoring disinformation online” is six million times less scary than “monitoring literally everything you do or say all the time for your entire life,” which is what Trump has contracted Palantir to do.

If you ask any questions about any of this, you’re either called an antisemite, a far-left open borders supporter, or both.

We should be deporting immigrants, but we should be doing so without threatening the freedom of speech or creating AI police state control grids. We should also do so, I think, without creating remote black sites, which really adds a whole other layer to this which I hadn’t really thought much about until the announcement of this “Alligator Alcatraz.”

I suppose it is obvious that if you’re going to create a total control grid and monitor everyone’s speech and behavior, and use AI to modify behavior on a society-wide scale, the social engineering won’t work on everyone so some people are going to have to disappear. And immigrants are so unpopular that the government has a chance to normalize – and get people to celebrate – this idea of people just disappearing and being hauled off to some secret prison. Doing a big fun publicity push with alligators is exactly what I would do if I wanted to normalize the idea of American black sites.

It’s all looking kinda dark, frankly.

The most frustrating part is just how well the social engineering campaigns already work. Granted, they are running into some issues getting people to go along with the whole antisemitism thing. Even a lot of right-wingers are very uncomfortable with the Trump administration’s push for these “hate speech” laws. But with Palantir AI surveillance grids or remote prisons with no due process, if you start asking really any right-winger about it, they’re going to call you an immigrant lover and start telling you that they don’t care if alligators eat the immigrants. If you follow-up with “okay, but can’t we just deport them instead of spending hundreds of millions of dollars to try to feed them to alligators?”, they will just get confused.

The answer as to “why not just deport them immediately?” is some garbled gibberish about courts. But with the way the Trump administration is steamrolling the complaints of judges about the way immigrants are being handled, the idea that they are really concerned about “asylum claims” and an infinite appeals process is not really believable. “We will feed them to alligators but if they survive they can live in this cage for decades and keep filing asylum appeals.” Further, all of those laws about asylum could just be changed. Trump is ramming the most expensive and unpopular bill in history through Congress, so the idea he can’t get rid of these idiotic asylum laws is dumb.

For the record, though I did not read the whole “Big Beautiful Bill,” my AI did, and the only change to asylum law the current version makes is that you have to pay $100 to apply for asylum. The fee, of course, can be waived if a judge says so. It appears very much like the goal here is to create a gigantic federal standing army in the form of ICE, that is able to round up immigrants and keep some fraction of a percentage of them in various cages rather than actually deport anyone back to their home country.

This is at the same time we are normalizing deploying the military onto the streets of American cities. I’m not pro-riot, and I’m not against sending the National Guard to deal with riots, but sending in the Marines? Does that really seem like something we want to be normalizing?

Sadly, like with everything else in a democracy, there isn’t anything you can do to change anything. But you should be aware that we are really not that far away from Palantir AI identifying you as an antisemite, and a private paramilitary group with no insignias on their gear throwing you in a van and flying you off to some secret prison. The Palantir control grid is really already here, they are in the process of combining all of these databases on you and using the AI to build profiles. So it’s just a matter of when they decide to start using it and for what purposes.

The way the deportation thing is currently being handled, which is by grabbing random people and doing so in a kind of public way (while also not doing any kind of relevant numbers, just to be clear), very much looks to me like it is designed to normalize scenes of people being randomly grabbed off the streets. If/when they start doing it to white Americans, “hey wait, isn’t that a white guy?” might go through someone’s head, but it isn’t going to matter. And most people won’t register that it is no longer just brown people who are getting picked up, after they’ve witnessed enough of these scenes.

You don’t have to be particularly creative to imagine a situation where ICE becomes Palantir’s NKVD.

I know this might sound a bit far-fetched. But all I’m doing is the only thing I ever do: I’m looking at the data, and doing my best to draw conclusions about what it means.

It’s also probably worth reminding people that if you simply made it a serious felony to hire or rent homes to illegal immigrants, and started putting the people who do that in prison (just normal prison, no need for alligators or any Looney Tunes shit), virtually all of the illegal immigrants would just leave.

It might also be worth reminding people that “illegal” immigrants have never caused even a fraction of the social, economic, and cultural damage that “legal” immigrants cause, and Trump is currently supporting moves to allow basically infinite numbers of “legal” immigrants.

It is very reasonable to suspect that maybe things are not exactly as they appear, and that maybe the government and media are not being perfectly frank with us about where all of this is headed.

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