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NOTE: Several readers and others disagreed with this article, and an update is posted at the bottom to reflect that.
This disgusts me to the point that I don’t even know what to say about it.
How long before the Russian Church goes full Vatican and starts shilling gay anal and abortion?
RT:
Those who refuse to be vaccinated against Covid-19 are committing a sin they will have to repent for the rest of their lives. That’s according to the Russian Orthodox Church, whose spokesman said rejecting a jab is selfish.
Speaking to TV channel Russia 24, the head of the Russia Orthodox Church’s Department for External Church Relations, Metropolitan Hilarion, explained that his parishioners regularly repent to him for not being vaccinated. They feel guilty because they passed the virus on to someone else who eventually died, he claimed.
“They come and say, ‘How am I supposed to live with this now?’ And it’s hard for even me to say how to live with it,” he explained. “All your life, you have to make up for the sin you committed.”
“The sin is thinking about yourself instead of thinking about other people,” the metropolitan said. “We are responsible – each of us – not only for ourselves and not only for our loved ones, but also for all those who come into contact with us.”
In recent months, the Church has been more vocal about its support for the government’s vaccination program. Metropolitan Hilarion has regularly spoken on TV about the need to follow the rules and take precautions to avoid infection. In June, the cleric revealed his “positive attitude” towards the government initiative to impose compulsory vaccination on those working in the service sector.
“Of course, it is desirable to observe the principle of voluntariness in relation to vaccinations – the principle that was stated from the very beginning,” he explained. “But there is also the principle of people’s responsibility for the lives of other people.”
How about the church does 30 minutes’ worth of research and finds that there is no evidence of a new virus, and even if there is a new virus, it doesn’t do anything but kill people who otherwise would have died of the normal flu? (There can never be any evidence of a new virus because the same number of people who always died from respiratory viruses are dying from respiratory viruses now – if they’re dying from a new virus instead of an old virus, that has no meaning at all, in practical terms.)
The Russian vaxx is different than the Western vaxxes, and maybe less deadly (it seems to be less deadly). But does it have aborted fetal tissue in it? Maybe the church should look into that?
Speaking of which: abortion is still legal in Russia, despite the fact that there is probably a majority that are against it. Instead of spending their time shilling a vaccine for a fake virus, why don’t they spend that time pushing for a ban on abortion?
How does abortion relate to “the principle of people’s responsibility for the lives of other people”?
This is absolute horseshit, and it’s disgusting.
People will often say that the Orthodox Church is the last one that isn’t corrupted – well then, what the hell is this vaxx agenda?
This is more proof that this truly is the end times, and that every church will be corrupt and serving the satanic Jewish globalist system.
(To be fair, it should be noted that the Orthodox Church is much less centralized than the Catholic Church, and non-Russian branches can come out with completely different positions on this.)
UPDATE:
There was a wide response to this article, claiming that Metropolitan Hilarion is NOT a spokesman of the church, even though his position is “head of the Russia Orthodox Church’s Department for External Church Relations.” It has been claimed that this position does not equal “spokesman,” and he was speaking his own mind, and not making an official statement for the church.
I responded to this by saying: well, if that’s true, this news has now been out and going viral for 1.5 working days in Russia (at the time of this update; at the time of the original RT article being posted, it had been nearly a full working day), and the church could have come out and clarified this, what with so many people believing this is an official statement.
Look: I run an organization that has employees who do not necessarily speak for me or this organization. If my sysop came out and said something like “not taking the vaxx is a sin,” and it was reported that “Hoax Watch official spokesman says not taking the vaxx is a sin,” it would not take me two working days to come out and say “that’s not a spokesman and I don’t agree with this.”
So, I mean – you get the thing.
But, in the spirit of fairness, clarity, and pursuit of the truth, I will post the comments of those who disagree.
Reader #1 comment:
This article is just wrong. And it is weird because surely RT should know that the head of the Department of External Church Relations is most certainly not “the spokesman” for the Russian Orthodox Church and the Metropolitan even prefaced his remarks by noting they were just his personal views. The DECR’s role, as the name suggests, is to facilitate relations between overseas synods of the ROC, the other non-Russian autocephalous of the Eastern Orthodox Church, and other Christian Denominations. The Russian Orthodox Church’s official policy on vaccinations is neutral. They neither endorse nor reject them. Indeed, just last week the head of the Monastery at Valaam tried to make vaccinations mandatory for everyone living there and Patriarch Kirill intervened and countermanded his order.
Reader #3 comment:
Anglin, please retract this article or issue a correction. This has been widely shilled since yesterday and is blatantly wrong. It was only Metropolitan Hilarion, a known subversive, giving his personal opinion to the media. They decided to report it as the whole “Russian Church.”
Furthermore, unlike the Catholics, our bishops are not God and cannot make blanket statements like this. He also has no authority outside of his own territory of churches, meaning that if he said something heretical, everyone else can just disregard him. It’s the benefit of our “decentralized hierarchy.”
Nobody has the right to speak for the entire “Russian Church” unless all the bishops come together and issue a collective decree. Hilarion speaks only for himself.
A third reader posted this, from a Russian Telegram channel, which was in response to Disclose.TV reporting the story the same way I reported it (also presumably using the RT article as a source):
It would be “better late than never” for the Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church to come out and denounce this viral statement from Metropolitan Hilarion, or at least clarify that he is not a spokesperson and this is not an official position (even if he doesn’t denounce – though I think denouncement is appropriate, as this was clearly presented as a new official doctrine of the church).
We will see, and I will of course provide the reader with any updates we receive from the church’s leadership.
As of right now: this is not an official retraction. I have reported that the “head of the Russia Orthodox Church’s Department for External Church Relations” made these statements, and there is no disagreement that these statements were made. There is disagreement about:
- Whether the term “spokesman” applies to Metropolitan Hilarion (which is ultimately a semantics issue, as his official title, even considering the Russian translation, sounds a lot like “spokesman”)
- Whether or not the church approves of these statements
As it stands, the Patriarch has made statements differing from this statement from Hilarion, but those statements were made before Hilarion’s statements.
As a small matter, which could be considered a minor retraction (more like a clarification, in news lingo), I have changed the headline to reflect that it is an official of the church that said it, and not necessarily the church itself that said it.
