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We’re getting to the point where basically every single major country on earth that is not a part of the “international community” has offered to help the Ukraine with a peace deal, and they have denied them all, saying they only want “endless war.”
It’s just such a wild situation. There are hundreds of thousands of people dead. The numbers are very difficult to calculate, because the West is so obsessed with lying about them, but we are probably approaching half a million dead here pretty soon.
And somehow, Zelensky remains aggressively pro-war, with the full support of the entire Western establishment.
Americans are just a bunch of fat retards. They just believe whatever sort of goofy gobbledygook the Jews tell them to believe, for the most part.
But the rest of the world is looking at this, like “seriously, are you serious?” And that includes the people of Western Europe (plus Hungary, obviously), even though their governments support it.
Germans especially are really questioning it.
With each new offer to help with peace that is rejected, the situation becomes more heinous.
Remember: this whole war is about who controls the Donbass, an area where literally no “Ukrainians” even live.
And the fact that Kosovo is now in the news, with NATO fully backing it – we are in the realm of avant garde abstract absurdism.
This Indonesian deal is the deal most in the interests of the Ukrainian side. In comparison to the Turkish, Chinese, and Russian offers (or the Elon Musk plan), it is great for the Ukraine. And they are rejecting it out of hand.
RT:
Ukraine has rejected Indonesia’s proposal for a peace settlement with Moscow, arguing that Jakarta’s plan would only serve Russia’s interests.
President Vladimir Zelensky’s top adviser Mikhail Podoliak wrote on Twitter on Saturday that the roadmap “frankly looks like a twin of the Russian proposal… about the surrender [of Ukraine].”
The adviser reiterated Kiev’s position that the “only one realistic proposal” would be for Russia to “withdraw from the sovereign territory of Ukraine.”
Ukrainian Foreign Ministry spokesman Oleg Nikolenko also insisted that Russia should surrender its newly incorporated regions, which Kiev says were illegally occupied. “There can be no alternative scenarios,” he said in a post on Facebook.
This is actual insanity. It is no different than a man on acid getting ready to jump off of a building because he thinks he can fly, and someone asks “are you sure you can actually fly?” and he replies: “there can be no alternative scenarios.”
This is a country losing a war that is demanding an unconditional surrender.
This has never happened before ever in history. Seriously. Try to find a single place, in all of human history, where a country had lost nearly half its population as a result of a war and continued to demand an unconditional surrender of the enemy. (There were 41 million people pre-war, and current realistic estimates are that anywhere from 15-20 million have fled, with most of them saying they’re never going back. Then you have the dead, which again, we don’t have real numbers on.)
“Ceasefire without the withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukraine will allow Russia to win time, regroup, fortify the occupied territories and accumulate forces for a new wave of aggression,” Nikolenko wrote.
Well, not if you signed a peace treaty surrendering the lost territories.
If you would have signed a peace treaty in March 2022, you would have only lost two provinces. Now you’ve lost much more. And if you don’t make a deal, you’re going to keep losing.
Russia can keep this up indefinitely. In “Bakhmut,” the Washington Post reported that casualties were 5-1. It’s probably more like 10-1, especially during the second half of the battle. The Ukraine is simply going to run out of bodies to throw into this meat grinder.
Meanwhile, the Russians still have people in prison that can join Wagner. They can continue to escalate mobilization. The reality is, Russia is a bigger country with a lot more people.
It cannot be overstated just how nonsensical this all is.
Speaking at the Shangri-La Dialogue security forum in Singapore on Saturday, Indonesian Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto suggested that both Russian and Ukrainian troops withdraw 15km (nearly 10 miles) from their current positions, creating a demilitarized zone that would be monitored by UN peacekeepers. He also proposed holding UN-sponsored referendums to determine the future “disputed” territories.
Moscow has so far not commented on the proposal. Russian officials stressed in the past that, in order to achieve a lasting peace, Ukraine must drop its bid to join NATO in favor of neutrality and recognize Russia’s recent territorial acquisitions. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Friday that there was “no basis” for meaningful negotiations at the moment because Kiev and the West “don’t have any political will to take into account our country’s goals and concerns.”
Creating a UN-monitored DMZ and planning for future negotiations is probably not something Russia would even accept. They really have no reason to. That is a path to the “frozen conflict” thing that Russia already rejected.
So, if there was any sort of idea in the heads of the Ukrainians beyond “endless death,” they would at least give a nod to this plan. Instead, they reject it immediately, out of hand.
The only reason anyone supports this war is because the media continues – even after the fall of the Bakhmut meat grinder – to say the Ukraine is winning. They are now saying there is going to be this “counteroffensive” that is going to take back Crimea, and maybe also invade Krasnodar and Belgorod as well. Maybe they’ll march on Moscow.
Remember that song that goes “War – HUH – what is it good for?”
The Kiev Junta does that in the reverse. “Peace – HUH – what is it good for?”
These people are all getting rich. They are filling up offshore bank accounts. They can all go live in Miami when they are forced to flee. There is no incentive to buck their American masters. All of the people around Zelensky are on the take, so there is no possibility of a palace coup.
Frankly, it’s just so retarded, I have a hard time even thinking about it for too long anymore.
This is what they do to you. It is a literal mind war strategy to say stuff that is so stupid and insane that it causes your brain to shut off, because you think “I must not understand what they are saying, because they surely can’t be saying what it sounds like they are saying.” That’s how many smart people react. It is a psychological mechanism. Then you have the dumb people who just believe literally anything – and with fanaticism – to create the illusion of popular support.
