Southern Baptists Banish Churches with Vaginal Pastors

I generally do not think anything of American protestants.

Pat Robertson died recently, and I meant to write a disdainful eulogy about how this guy used people’s affinity for family values to push Zionism. I didn’t get around to writing it, because I guess I didn’t care very much. I should write it today, maybe.

Anyway, the one caveat I usually give is that Southern Baptists are the best of the worst. I think their theology is stupid Calvinist tripe, which the followers do not even believe, but they stayed away from the hardcore kook “faith healer” stuff in the 1970s and 80s, and they are now refusing to go along with the anal-vaginal agenda.

You have to give credit where it is due.

NPR:

The Southern Baptist Convention voted overwhelmingly Wednesday to uphold earlier decisions to expel two churches because they have women pastors.

The decision came during the group’s annual meeting in New Orleans. The SBC heard appeals by California megachurch Saddleback and a smaller church, Fern Creek Baptist in Louisville, Ky.

Saddleback Church ordained a woman as a campus pastor, and the Kentucky congregation has had a woman pastor, Rev. Linda Popham, for more than three decades.

Video from 2 years ago

The SBC’s 2000 statement of faith, called Baptist Faith and Message, asserts that only qualified men can serve as pastors, and the nearly 13,000 voters, who are called “messengers,” voted to uphold the churches’ removals.

During the floor debate in New Orleans, Popham argued that women should be allowed to serve as pastors and that she had been faithfully serving in churches since she was a teenager.

She said that her congregation adhered to an earlier version of the Baptist Faith and Message, adopted in 1963. That version of the theological document does not exclude women from holding the office of pastor.

“We have a faith and practice,” Popham said of her congregation, “that identifies more closely with the Baptist Faith and Message than many other Southern Baptist churches, and I am personally more conservative than the most Southern Baptist pastors I know.”

Popham also said it’s not a problem for congregations to disagree with one another on the specifics of who’s eligible for ministry and that she would never suggest any congregation had to have a woman as its pastor.

Defending the churches’ expulsions was prominent SBC theologian and seminary president Albert Mohler.

He argued that the Bible restricts the role of pastor to men only.

“The issue of women serving in the pastorate,” he said, “is an issue of fundamental Biblical authority that does violate both the doctrine and the order of the Southern Baptist Convention.”

As Mohler spoke, voters interrupted him multiple times with applause in support of his position.

The women at Fern Creek and Saddleback will continue to serve as pastors there, but their congregations are no longer part of the Southern Baptist Convention.

After upholding the expulsions, messengers in New Orleans voted by a two-thirds majority to amend their constitution to state that the Southern Baptist Convention “Affirms, appoints, or employs only men as any kind of pastor or elder.”

I think it’s quite possible that this will end up in some kind of court room.

This would be a great place for the Democrats to take their fight against Christianity to the courts. There are a lot of different angles they could come from.

For a long time, I’ve been expecting a “metoo” phenomenon to happen to the Baptists, and maybe Christians in general. They did it to the Catholic Church years ago with the “pedophile” scandals. It was actually just homosexuals. But they wanted to distinguish between good and bad homosexuals, which is now, ironically, a goal of many Christian churches. I always think about the fact that “faggot” in Russian is “pedik” – because everyone knows all homosexuals prefer teen boys.

I’ve been thinking about starting a podcast. Wang Town is on hiatus, apparently (tell Paul Town to text me). I would need a team and I haven’t put that together yet. But when I do, interviewing a baptist pastor is something I would be interested in.

I’ve had an idea for a podcast for a long time where I have a long list of questions prepared, and ask them relatively quickly over a period of 90 minutes. I was thinking of calling it “21 Questions,” which is gimmicky and would probably sell because of that. I’ve also got kind of fed up with the “conversational podcast” model, which is just so overplayed. The issue is, I would get kicked off of every platform where that kind of gimmick would be most effective.