Robert F. Kennedy Jr on Why No One Will Debate Him on Vaccines, Not Even Peter Hotez
“Nobody in eighteen years has been willing to debate me”@joerogan @RobertKennedyJr pic.twitter.com/gRjLJxkMg0
— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) June 15, 2023
No one knows where you’re supposed to get full Joe Rogan podcasts anymore. They disappeared from YouTube a few years ago, and no one on earth has any idea where they went – save for Joe himself and his closest confidants.
What is truly amazing is that the greatest minds of the age have come together to work to try to find where Joe is posting these full podcasts, and none has come up with even a trace.
But we’ve got clips.
Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has appeared on controversial podcaster Joe Rogan’s show, where he has doubled down on his conspiracy theory about his uncle JFK’s assassination and his anti-vaccine stance.
Kennedy appeared on the show Thursday, with Rogan acknowledging that “people are very concerned with letting you say things that are going to get them in trouble” because he was a “kind of looney” regarding vaccines.
Kennedy went into detail about how he, as an environmental lawyer, was approached by a woman with an autistic son who changed his outlook on vaccination.
On Joe Rogan, RFK Jr. explains how mercury and other toxic chemicals were added to vaccines to drive a more robust immune response:
“Vaccinologists figured out that if you add something horrendously toxic to the vaccine… your body confuses that with the viral pathogen.” pic.twitter.com/PMxKmqaAtI
— Year Zero w/ Rory Biller (@Z3RO_Y34R) June 15, 2023
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says there is no link between vaccines and autism.
He also peddled a conspiracy theory that the CIA was involved in the assassination of his uncle, President John F. Kennedy.
“What do you think happens when you get into office? Like, if you’re talking about your uncle who was assassinated and you believe the intelligence agencies were a part of that, what happens to you?” Rogan probed.
“Well, I got to be careful,” Kennedy responded. “And I’m aware of that — I’m aware of that danger. I don’t live in fear of it, you know, at all. But I’m not stupid about it, and I take precautions.”
Joe Rogan asks RFK Jr. what he thinks will happen to him if he gets into office after talking about the CIA’s alleged involvement in JFK’s assassination.@RobertKennedyJr: “I gotta be careful. I’m aware of that danger. I don’t live in fear of it — at all.. I take precautions.” pic.twitter.com/F5OEc4936Y
— ALX 🇺🇸 (@alx) June 15, 2023
The US government concluded that convicted shooter Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in the 1963 murder of JFK.
It also determined there was no credible evidence that he was part of a conspiracy to assassinate the president.
The pair also discussed Kennedy’s book on US chief medical adviser Anthony Fauci, called “The Real Anthony Fauci.”
In the 2021 book, the presidential hopeful accused Fauci of assisting in “a historic coup d’etat against western democracy” and promoted unproven COVID treatments such as ivermectin, which is meant to treat parasites, and the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine.
Rogan gushed about the book: “If what you were saying was not true, you would have been instantly sued … it was so disturbing that sometimes I had to go and read fiction at times.”
According to the Hollywood Reporter, “The Joe Rogan Experience” averages 11 million listeners per episode.
It’s the single most popular show in the English language. (Actually, there might be challengers in India, where there are a billion people and they often speak English on TV because no one really understands each other when they talk in their own language. But that sort of does not count.)
Kennedy is clearly right about vaccines causing autism. And even if he isn’t, who cares? At least he’s saying something.
I’ve pushed back some on the theory, because much mental retardation is caused by endocrine problems and I think the fact that the rise in autism came with the rise in endocrine-disrupting chemicals – plastic being the biggest and best known – becoming ubiquitous in our environment is worth a mention.
The other problem is that “autism” diagnoses are not totally scientific. All of this stuff about a spectrum – it gets to the point where you’re like “okay, well – show me some scientific data beyond these controversial brain scans” (which really only prove the person is different, and aren’t even shared among all people diagnosed with “autism”).
That said: there are clearly some weird people walking around, and the child testing has been done for decades and shows a rise in people testing differently. So I’m not going to claim that autism doesn’t exist, but simply that people who might just be weird or otherwise abnormal are getting grouped in this category. (I don’t think it is like ADHD, which is literally completely fake.)
Kennedy is the one who convinced me it is at least probably the vaccines that are causing at least some of these problems. However, even he says that it’s not just autism, but a general decline in all health outcomes, and I really do think that is a better way of looking at it. I already believed that. But a few years ago, I picked up one of his books – the main one before the Fauci one – and I was thusly convinced that yes, at least some of the autism is caused by vaccines – insofar as one of the negative health outcomes associated with vaccines is neural mis-wiring, mis-firing, or disfigurement.
But I say this honestly: it doesn’t even matter if it’s true, what matters is that he’s saying it. I support saying anything that goes against the public, popular narrative, even if it is not actually factual.
Of course, I love the truth, and I want to get to the truth, but the biggest impediment to getting to the truth is that you’re not allowed to disagree with any single establishment orthodoxy. So if someone is breaking that orthodoxy, even if it is with kooky stuff (I don’t have to name names), it is a net positive.
The other thing is: it’s rare that you meet anyone who disagrees with some establishment orthodoxy who is not open to considering other things. We’ve all gone on journeys, with most people starting de facto believing everything, then questioning something, then something else, and ultimately developing an entirely new worldview, where most of the things you were told end up being wrong or at least framed in a way that is meant to manipulate you.
For example: if you meet someone who believes in flat earth, you can say “Jews control the world,” and they will reply: “no, my friend – Jews control the realm.”
It’s much better that someone like RFK Jr., who is very famous and has a voice in the mainstream, is saying something like this.
Everyone is losing their minds.
On Joe Rogan’s podcast, RFK Jr. discusses vaccine fanaticism and the ‘trust the experts’ sloganeering:
“‘Trust the experts’ is not a function of science. It’s the opposite of science. Trusting the experts is a function of religion and totalitarianism.” pic.twitter.com/xH29Pp5Y9e
— Year Zero w/ Rory Biller (@Z3RO_Y34R) June 16, 2023
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