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Matt Gaetz hosted a Zero Hedge backed debate between libertarian Dave Smith and (allegedly non-Jewish) neocon global dominationist Robert Spencer this week.
Overall, the debate is mundane and not worth watching. Probably, everyone is familiar with all of the content here, and these debates are sort of just repetitive and tiresome at this point, particularly after the debate between Smith and the pompous pederast Douglas Murray, which kind of put an end to the question of “is America controlled by Jews?”
The topic here is slightly different, given that it is about Iran rather than Palestine, but it’s the same core content, going to the same core question of whether or not America should operate as a proxy of Israel because maybe somehow all of Israel’s goals are good for America. All of Spencer’s talking points are tired, and therefore Smith has no option but to give the same tired responses.
Further, on the specific issue of Iran, the Tucker Carlson debate with Ted Cruz is much better and more fun. I would recommend that to anyone who hasn’t watched it yet. That was just a complete rape and it was hilarious. It also had more interesting content, particularly in relation to Christian Zionism and the direct role that Israel plays in controlling our government.
That interview was like a high stakes MMA fight. It got my heart pounding and I was cheering, jeering, and ooosssshing.
Mainly though, it is just incredible to see an actual top government warmonger subject himself to questioning like this. I think it’s sort of a historic moment, because aside from Trump (who doesn’t really count), no high level politician has ever agreed to a two-hour unedited, unscripted interview with a critical podcaster. (Note: Trump himself is not going to do a podcast interview now on the Iran issue. He did all those podcasts when he was campaigning and could just say anything. So the Tucker-Ted interview is novel, and it’s possible nothing like that will ever happen again after how disastrous it was for Cruz.)
So I don’t recommend the Gaetz hosted debate, unless you’ve got nothing else to watch and you enjoy hearing the same talking points over and over again for some reason. What I would like to recommend is that Matt Gaetz be given another chance. I know he sort of crashed out after Trump set him up by nominating him as AG and then fed him to the sharks. In hindsight, this was clearly a nasty move by Trump to give the impression he was trying to put outsiders in his cabinet but just couldn’t pull it off because outsiders are too into jailbait and blow.
Refresher: After Trump nominated Gaetz, the media brought up old jailbait scandals giving Trump the layup to throw him under the bus, and in this process, he also lost his Congressional seat, because he had to resign from that to accept the AG nomination. Because of Gaetz’ scandals then, Trump’s logic went, he had no choice but to go with the nasty MILF who thinks Epstein killed himself. (Also, nominating Gaetz created problems for Ron DeSantis, who Trump wanted revenge on.) It was a callous play by Trump which destroyed Gaetz’ life.
Though the content was dull, I was impressed with Gaetz’ skills as a host and personality. I think he has potential as a podcaster. He’s also siding with anti-Israel arguments, so what I would really like to see is Gaetz run against Ron DeSantis for Florida governor on a right-wing anti-war, anti-Zionist platform. That would at worst be an awesome shitshow, which would force DeSantis to defend his insane pro-Jewish agenda in a public forum, which will go about as well as it did for Ted Cruz.
Check ’em:
Matt Gaetz exposes Israel’s secret nuclear program and calls for its denuclearization. pic.twitter.com/EgubtOLg8q
— 𝐀𝐍𝐓𝐔𝐍𝐄𝐒 (@Antunes1) June 19, 2025
So far, Gaetz has only “expressed interest” in running in the 2026 Florida gubernatorial election. I think he should just declare now and get out there and start talking about the insanity of these wars. I’m sure he’s hesitant, because he will get attacked by Trump, but look, Trump is over. He has sealed his fate. The way forward is for MAGA loyalists to say “we’re going to defend MAGA even when Trump won’t.” That’s the play.
Ron DeSantis has passed the most aggressive anti-speech laws in American history in defense of Israel. He’s a very easy target. The guy is Ted Cruz on steroids. And there’s no way he can avoid a televised debate with Gaetz and have a hope to beat him.
I think Gaetz is a good candidate for this and I will support him. In fact, I am presently endorsing Matt Gaetz for Florida Governor.
Whatever happens, it will be huge for his brand, and get him off of this “50,000 viewer podcast” trap he’s currently bogged down in. If he goes out there as the total America First anti-war gubernatorial candidate and publicly stands up to DeSantis’ lunatic warmongering, then even if he loses the election, he can come back to the podcast scene with a fury and actually make some real money, then maybe go back into politics again later if he feels like it. It’s a total win-win. No possible bad outcome.
