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Andrew Anglin
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December 11, 2013
Two days ago, I published a piece condemning the statements of Jobbik’s leader, Gabor Vona, regarding Islam and Turkey.
At time of writing, the post has over a hundred comments on it. Most people seem to agree with me that the statements are disgusting and offensive, but several people took offense to my having taken offense. As such, I believe it is worthwhile to respond to this criticism here, rather than spend hours in the comments section responding to individuals.
Firstly, it is important to make it clear that I am not condemning Jobbik as a whole, I am not even necessarily condemning Vona, I am simply presenting a response to statements which I find unacceptable.
I am in no way dismissing the achievements of Jobbik by addressing these statements.
The Statements
While on a speaking tour in Turkey, Vona is quoted as having said:
A.) “Islam is the last hope for humanity in the darkness of globalism and liberalism,” and
B.) “We’re not coming to Turkey to build diplomatic and economic relations, but to meet our Turkish brothers and sisters.”
These comments are deeply troubling at best, at worst, they are treasonous.
The first statement is so bizarre, I can’t even comprehend it. Why would Islam – a foreign religion of our millenia-old enemies – be the “last hope for humanity,” rather than our own Christian faith? Surely, Christianity served as a barrier against liberalism in the past, why should it not do so now? In identifying Islam as humanity’s last hope, Vona is not simply praising the cult of a race which has repeatedly invaded and subjugated our people, but he is implicitly stating that Christianity is incapable of providing spiritual direction for our people.
Vona’s defenders have claimed that he is not encouraging Hungarians to convert to Islam, noting that he himself is not a Muslim. However, if Islam is truly “humanity’s last hope,” why would we not convert? If we have no more hopes, we need to go with the last one, right?
The second statement plainly implies that Hungarians are Turks. It is connected to Vona’s belief in Turanism, a mythological concept that there is an ancient ‘Turanaid’ race, of which both Turks and Hungarians belong. Believers in this religious concept generally endorse some sort of “pan-Turian empire.” In my perception, it is clear that Hungarians are White European people, and I would wager that this is how the overwhelming majority of Hungarians identify.
The Wikipedia article on Turanism offers us the following on the topic:
Turanism, or Pan-Turanism, is a political movement for the union of all Turanian peoples. It implies not merely the unity of all Turkic peoples (as in Pan-Turkism), but also the unification of a wider Turanid race, also known as the controversial Uralo-Altaic race, believed to include all peoples speaking “Turanian languages”. Like the term Aryan, Turanian is used chiefly as a linguistic term, equivalent to Ural-Altaic linguistic group. The idea of the necessity of “Turanian brotherhood/collaboration” was borrowed from the “Slavic brotherhood/collaboration” idea of Panslavism.[2]
Turkish proponents of scientific racism claimed that this racial group embraced
the Ottoman Turks of Istanbul and Anatolia, the Turcomans of Central Asia and Persia, the Tartars of South Russia and Transcaucasia, the Magyars of Hungary, the Finns of Finland and the Baltic provinces, the aboriginal tribes of Siberia and even the distant Mongols and Manchus”.
[…]Hungarian Turanism (Hungarian: Turanizmus) is a Hungarian nationalist ideology which stresses the alleged origins of the Hungarian people in the steppes of Central Asia (“Turan”) and the affinity of the Hungarians with Asian peoples such as the Turkic people. It gained wide currency on the Hungarian political right in the years between the two world wars. In the half-century before World War I, some Hungarians sought to encourage Pan-Turanianism as a means of uniting Turks and Hungarians against the Slavs and Pan-Slavism.
It appears that Vona’s statements relate to a larger plan to attempt to introduce a new identity for the people, where they are not Europeans, but instead part of some vague pseudo-historical group that is actually Turkish.
If we look at the two statements together, we easy can picture a worst case scenario, where Vona is planning to push Hungary into some weird new Turkish empire, where it would obviously make sense for Hungarians to embrace their “last hope” and convert to Islam.
However, that is merely worse case, and if it is Vona’s plan, it merely means he is insane, as no such thing is ever going to happen. The Turks are a backward, savage race that was only capable of maintaining an empire in the medieval period. A glance at the present state of Turkey clearly shows that they no more capable of functioning efficiently in the modern world than their Arab neighbors (who they are now heavily mixed with, genetically), and the idea of them reestablishing their empire today is only slightly less ridiculous than supposing sub-Saharan Africans are going to establish a modern empire.
Regardless of weird potential undertones, the statements are offensive enough in themselves if taken at face value to warrant heavy reproach.
The Commenting Critics
The most base criticism lodged in the comments of my previous article was that I have no right to comment on the affairs of Hungary, as I am not Hungarian. This can of course be dismissed outright, as I have a right to comment on anything I wish to comment on, and the behavior of individual figures within European nationalism effects the larger whole, and thus I have a duty to use my influence to effect perceptions of individuals moving in a direction which I view to be detrimental to the cause of European nationalism. Beyond this, Jobbik, as a European nationalist organization that has achieved a good degree of success, is being looked to as an inspiration by aspiring nationalist parties in Europe, and as such they should be subject to extra scrutiny.
I would also assert that as European nationalists, Jobbik has a duty to work alongside other nationalist organizations. Regardless of whether or not Hungary presently is dealing with a crisis of Islamic immigration (it seems they are not), this is the core issue that most European nations are dealing with. By endorsing Islam, Vona is demonstrating a lack of concern for the plight of the rest of Europe. It is difficult to imagine how these statements could have been anything other than a purposeful attempt to alienate other European nationalist organizations.
Ultimately though, the point that as I am not a Hungarian, I have no right to dictate the direction of the Hungarian nation, is one I am able to recognize. If indeed the Hungarian people decide that they want to be Turks instead of Europeans, and embrace Islam as their last hope, then I have no right to tell them otherwise. I would wager, however, that most Hungarians would be just as disgusted by the notion as the people of any other European nation.
Another critic framed my distaste for these statements as a declaration that I do not believe Europe should have any alliances with the Muslim world, ever, because I believe Muslims are always the enemy. This is a misrepresentation both of what Vona has said and what I have said in response.
Claiming Islam is humanity’s last hope and saying that Hungarians are Turks is not the language of strategic geopolitical alliance – I don’t exactly know what type of language it is, but it is not that.
For my part, I have not said, nor do I believe, that Europe should never have any ties with Muslim nations. Looking at the Muslim world now, however, there are very few political bodies which I consider worthy of endorsement (the most honorable among them are Hezbollah, Assad and Iran).
On top of this, the benefits of such alliances, at this present juncture, are unclear to me, and it is especially unclear why one would make it a focal point. These countries have very little going for them. They are at least a century behind us in development, and are not likely to catch up any time soon. They do not have modern militaries, economies or even basic infrastructure. On the whole, they are poverty stricken and hellish. All that they have to offer are natural resources, and these can be obtained through other channels.
So though I don’t necessarily advocate ruling it out completely, alliances with Muslim nations would be very difficult to obtain, and serve almost no purpose. European nationalist organizations should be looking to Russia, or even China, to form alliances, not the backward mother nations of the invading hordes, who represent an ancient blood enemy.
Finally, I will address the commenter Reichenberg, who brought up a couple of points:
Your time spent with Greek comrades may have influenced you more, then you ‘d like to admit, Bro.
Get yourself together. You are being particular here. “Turks are demons”, so everyone opposing them are good. Black and white thinking. Exactly the kind we don’t need.
Before you answer, please consider: Was this article in any way helpful to the Cause of our Aryan Revolution?
Black and white thinking is exactly the kind of thinking we do need, in my perception.
“Muslims are invading us and raping women on the streets of every European capital… but, Islam is the last hope of humanity and we should be friends with the Turks who spent hundreds of years trying to conquer us and still have a deep-rooted hatred of Christian Europe” is not the sort of message you want to present. Clearly, complexity exists, but communicating it to millions of people is impossible. Everything comes down to maintaining a narrative which moves the masses, and by seeking an alliance with Turkey, and doing so using such a strange premise and non-political language, Vona is distorting history and alienating all of Europe.
To the second point: I am not the one who said Islam is humanity’s last hope. That was Gabor. This statement is clearly detrimental to Aryan revolution, as it brings into question absolutely everything we are fighting for, and obfuscates the enemy. I would not have written the article if these statements had not been made.
So yes, the article is absolutely helpful to the cause, because it calls out a type of thought that cannot be tolerated by the larger whole of European nationalism. Again, Hungarians are a sovereign people, and if they want to embrace Islam and say that they are Turks, that is their right. For the rest of Europe, however, there is no room for sympathy for the blood enemies of our people.
You mention my association with Greeks, but please, ask Bulgarians, Serbians, Slovaks, Russians, French or Germans what they think of Turks. Everyone knows that these people are a very serious problem, and a nationalist leader making a point to reach out to them in such a flagrant way was clearly going to be viewed as unacceptable. If anything, the offense which would obviously be taken by the rest of European nationalists was enough reason not to say these things.
Any approval of Islam, outside of simply stating that Muslims in their own lands have a right to determine their own way of life, is detrimental to the cause of European nationalism. Claiming that Islam is the last hope for humanity absolutely borders on treason.
I am not dismissing Jobbik as a lost cause, I am simply stating what should be obvious: these comments are very disturbing, and the thinking behind them needs to be understood.
UPDATE:
In the comments section, the commenter ‘The Truth Will Out’ proposed a conspiracy theory that the quotes from Gabor Vona which served as the basis for this article had been fabricated by Jews for the purpose of defaming Jobbik, and that I was engaging in shoddy journalism and spreading Jewish lies.
I had not understood that the veracity of the quotations was being questioned, as most who have been following Jobbik understand that Vona has repeatedly made statements endorsing Islam and claiming that Hungarians are Turks, but because of the confusion, I have gone ahead and pulled the quotes from Jobbik’s own official website.
Here is the second quote, regarding Hungarians being the blood brothers of the Turks, translated exactly as I quoted it above:
‘I did not come here to improve temporal diplomatic and business relations, other people will do so; I came here to meet my brothers and sisters, to offer a brotherly alliance and to bring you the message: Hungarians are awakening! This is our common mission and the universal task of Turanism: to build a bridge between East and West, Muslim and Christian and struggle together for a better world. We must show that Christians and Muslims are not enemies but brothers. Perhaps none else than us Hungarians and Turks are able to do that; but we are, because we are connected by our common blood.’
http://www.jobbik.com/g%C3%A1bor_vona_future_eurasia_will_be_based_traditions
I can’t find the exact version of the “Islam is humanity’s last hope” quote, but this is the same basic statement, phrased slightly differently, in an article from 2010:
‘If Islam fails the lights will completely go out. There will be no foeman against the darkness of globalism. Then the history will really come to an end and there will be no happy end….’
