Andrew Anglin
Daily Stormer
January 18, 2018
Yesterday I wrote an article about lists, wherein I cited a WIRED news report that discussed an Elon Professor and the SPLC using a leaked membership list belonging to the League of the South to track down and identify 130 members of the group which they have contacted and are planning to sue or get fired.
At least one prominent member of the group has claimed that this is entirely fake news and that the list is fake. And of course, I will side with these claims over those of the mainstream fake news.
It had not occurred to me that the entire article could have simply been made up, or that the list was fake and that they are lying about impending doxing. That had not occurred to me because although the media lies continually, the article specifically said that the SPLC and the Elon professor were currently preparing to dox the individuals they had successfully identified as members of the group – most fake news that I am familiar with tends to be based around claims that cannot be verified either way.
However, Huffington Post claimed that I live in Ohio and was seen at a Meijer’s store buying protein powder, and that will come out in court as being false, so apparently they do do this.
So, I want to say that before writing yesterday’s piece, I should have contacted the League and asked them about the list. Again, it did not cross my mind, but it should have.
Other members of the League have said that the list is old, or otherwise irrelevant. Again, whatever they say, I will take their word over that of the mainstream media, as I think we all owe each other that benefit of the doubt given just how much the media has lied about all of us.
I was wrong.
The Point Still Stands
The upshot here of all the drama that my piece caused is that we are now discussing the concept of real name lists – and that was a discussion that very much needed to be had.
Regardless of whether or not anyone will get doxed here, the problem of real name lists remains.
If your real name is on a list, there is no timeline on which it does not get leaked to the SPLC and the feds. And for the time-being, that probably means you will lose your job, and then be hunted by the SPLC for the rest of your life (or until we fully normalize our politics – whichever comes first).
As I have stated, I do not personally understand the purpose of real name lists. This is the digital age, and there is no need to send people anything through the mail. So allowing for people who do not want to be doxed to use a pseudonym and a throwaway email address seems to be a no-brainer.
I do not think that the people compiling these lists are doing so maliciously, but the fact that they are compiling them implies that their security is lax. The WIRED story described a disgruntled former member leaking the list to Antifa, and though we are now hearing that this did not happen, it is nonetheless very easy to see how this could happen. Federal agents could also very easily isolate and pressure an individual to leak such a list, or demand it during a grand jury. Or the database could be hacked.
Any number of other things could happen that would result in a real name database being leaked, which would result in people having their lives destroyed, and so I have to restate that I personally believe that these lists are unjustifiable.
“They’re Already Watching You”
People have brought up the point that the NSA and CIA already store all digital information, and claimed that this means no information should ever be kept secret.
That is a very, very lazy analysis. Firstly, I do support using encrypted messaging for communications within the movement, or safe servers. This means that the NSA/CIA would have to specifically target you with a zero day hack, which is unlikely unless you are a leader in the movement.
More importantly, the NSA/CIA is not the same thing as the SPLC/Antifa. Right now, the NSA/CIA will generally not even use zero days to prevent terrorist attacks. They are certainly not using information gathered through illegal spying programs to get people fired from their jobs.
So the argument of “it doesn’t matter because they already have everything” is complete nonsense.
Podcasts and Donations and So On
People have asked about signing up to podcasts and having their names on those sorts of lists, and I will say that this is different for a number of reasons.
Firstly, donating or subscribing to a podcast is not very likely to get you fired. It is simply not in the same league as going to a rally or being a member of a group. In fact, I don’t even think the SPLC would act on a list of podcast subscribers or donors, because it would be too extreme. Imagine them calling up your boss and saying “I just want you to know that this guy downloaded a podcast that contained ideas that violate the mainstream ideology.”
Furthermore, those sorts of lists tend to be only be visible to a single person and held on a secure server designed for payment processing. If your name appears next to a credit card number then it is on an encrypted server that is only accessed by the payment processor.
That said, it is easy enough to use Bitcoin or a pre-paid card to sign-up anonymously and make payments for podcasts or donations, as all of these companies allow that. Hatreon for instance does not require any identifying information, and I know that the TRS paywall is the same.
This is None of My Business
I have been told in a very rude manner by several people that it is not any of my business how these groups are run. And that is true. They are able to make decisions about how they run their organizations, and if they want to keep real name lists that is their prerogative.
That having been said, I do have a duty to my own readers to warn them of things which I feel are dangerous. I have not attacked anyone. I have not said anything about any aspect of the League (I honestly do not know much, and tend to keep to my own business) other than that I am opposed to the policy of keeping real name lists. And if this list is fake – and I accept that it is, because I will believe them over the fake news media – that doesn’t change the fact that they are keeping real name lists.
Framing this as an attack or infighting is in no way helpful to the groups themselves or to anyone in the movement at all. Using this as an attempt to claim that I am somehow being malicious is utterly vile. I am trying to protect my own people, period.
Though I believe this practice is so dangerous that I am somewhat shocked by the flimsy explanations as to why it is being done, I am certainly not implying anything malicious on the part of these groups. And I truly wish that we could all behave as adults and as brothers and work together for a common goal.
I want Daily Stormer to be a site that supports all nationalist groups, but if these groups are asking me to silently allow my own readers to get involved in situations that are dangerous, I just can’t do that.
I would do anything to keep the peace in this movement, but I won’t do that.