War Starting Up in East Ukraine?

Andrew Anglin
Daily Stormer
April 8, 2014

Burn, baby, burn.
Burn, baby, burn.

It appears that things are getting going.

RT:

Ukraine’s Interior Ministry has launched an anti-terrorist operation in the eastern city of Kharkov by blocking the city center, said acting Interior Minister Arsen Avakov. At least 70 activists have been arrested by the police.

“The anti-terrorist operation has begun. The center of the city and Metro stations are closed. As soon as we finish the operation, we will unblock them,” wrote Avakov on his Facebook page, “The building of Regional State Administration is totally free from the separatists who seized it earlier.”

According to Avakov, no weapons have been used during the operation.

On Monday police clashed with anti-coup protesters in an effort to push the activists back from the city administration building. Kharkov demonstrators in the second-largest Ukrainian city took control of the building earlier in the day, after proclaiming independence of the region from Kiev.

Police reportedly used fire-hoses, stun grenades, and tear gas to push the crowd back from the building. In response, protesters threw several Molotov cocktails at the building and set a pile of tires on fire. The blaze soon spread to the first floor of the building.

Activists at the scene said the law enforcement officers who used force against protesters had been deployed from western Ukraine. According to some witnesses, the violence was initially triggered by a group of provocateurs. Earlier in the day, pro-EU demonstrators clashed with supporters of the federalization of Ukraine.

Eventually, a group of local police outside the administration building moved in to push protesters back, allowing fire crews to extinguish the blaze. The building was slightly damaged by the blaze, and several windows were broken in scuffles.

Witnesses at the scene reported that demonstrators were still in control of the government building after the tensions eased.

Earlier on Monday, speaking through a loudspeaker in the hall of the city’s regional administration building, an activist could be heard saying that the issue of Kharkov becoming a sovereign state independent from Ukraine will be decided by a regional referendum. A crowd of demonstrators responded to the statement with cheers.

Kharkov protesters erected barricades around administrative buildings and the regional headquarters of the Security Service of Ukraine on Monday. Brief clashes between supporters of the federalization of Ukraine and pro-EU demonstrators were reported in downtown Kharkov. Protesters on both sides reportedly used firecrackers and stun grenades.

Anti-coup protesters in Donetsk proclaimed on Monday the creation of a People’s Republic of Donetsk after seizing the local administration building on Sunday night.

The situation remains tense in the port city of Mariupol in the Donetsk region, where pro-Russian activists on Saturday stormed the Prosecutor’s Office building, demanding the release of detained “people’s mayor” Dmitry Kuzmenko.

Here’s some footage of the madness.

So what happens next?

Putin may try to remain out of things until the last minute.  The issue is, that even with American mercenaries leading the operation, the Ukraine does not have soldiers with the level of discipline necessary to deal with these rebellions against them without using serious violence, and that violence that is sure to come will make things worse, at which point Russia will have no choice but to send in liberation forces.

Or, Putin could just arm the protesters, perhaps send in some unmarked special forces, and let them figure out the details.

They are warning of a civil war.

CNN:

Russia’s Foreign Ministry said that reports that the protesters, including those occupying a regional administration building in the city of Donetsk, are facing a crackdown by Ukrainian authorities are of particular concern.

“We are calling for the immediate cessation of any military preparations, which could lead to civil war,” it said in a statement on its official website.

The ministry alleged that what it called “American experts from the private military organization Greystone,” disguised as soldiers, as well as militants from the Ukrainian far-right group Right Sector, had joined Ukrainian forces preparing for the crackdown in the country’s east.

Late Monday, Ukrainian special forces cleared armed protesters from the headquarters of Ukrainian security services in Donetsk, acting President Oleksandr Turchynov’s office announced Monday night.

We should also note that the Maidan now has a war on two fronts, with the violent revolutionaries who helped them take Kiev now on the verge of staging a second revolution.

They are also apparently having a war in the Parliament, as all factions of revolutionaries continue to cannibalize one another.

Globe and Mail:

Deputies in the Ukrainian parliament brawled in the chamber on Tuesday after a communist leader accused nationalists of playing into the hands of Russia by adopting extreme tactics early in the Ukrainian crisis.

Two deputies from the Svoboda far-right nationalist party took exception to the charges by communist Petro Symonenko and seized him while he was talking from the rostrum.

His party supporters rallied to his defence and a brawl broke out with deputies from other parties joining in and trading punches.

Ukraine: Riot in the Parliament.  Civilized men, these.
Ukraine: Riot in the Parliament. Civilized men, these.

The US is warning Russia again. Such serious business.

LA Times:

The Obama administration Monday accused Russia of promoting separatist agitation in eastern Ukraine and threatened to step up economic sanctions on Moscow unless it reverses course.

As pro-Russia separatists in the eastern region seized government buildings and demanded votes on secession, Washington strongly suggested that Moscow was sending in paid agitators and raising tensions by moving thousands of Russian troops along Ukraine’s border.

Secretary of State John F. Kerry called Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Monday to express Washington’s “great concern” and to convey its view that pro-Russia demonstrations and the seizure of government buildings “do not appear to be a spontaneous set of events,” spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters at the State Department.

Kerry “made clear that any further Russian effort to destabilize Ukraine will incur further costs for Russia,” she said.

My word – more “costs”! I wonder: will there also be “consequences”?

We know that if there is one thing Putin fears, it is threats of vague “costs” and “consequences.”

An interesting recent study shows that the less Americans know about the Ukraine – most have no idea where it even is – the more likely they are to support intervention.

Where Americans believe the Ukraine is located.
Where Americans believe the Ukraine is located.

It makes sense that the ones who believe it is in the United States support intervention. That is at least logical.

Washington Post
:

Since Russian troops first entered the Crimean peninsula in early March, a series of media polling outlets have asked Americans how they want the U.S. to respond to the ongoing situation. Although two-thirds of Americans have reported following the situation at least “somewhat closely,” most Americans actually know very little about events on the ground — or even where the ground is.

On March 28-31, 2014, we asked a national sample of 2,066 Americans (fielded via Survey Sampling International Inc. (SSI), what action they wanted the U.S. to take in Ukraine, but with a twist: In addition to measuring standard demographic characteristics and general foreign policy attitudes, we also asked our survey respondents to locate Ukraine on a map as part of a larger, ongoing project to study foreign policy knowledge. We wanted to see where Americans think Ukraine is and to learn if this knowledge (or lack thereof) is related to their foreign policy views. We found that only one out of six Americans can find Ukraine on a map, and that this lack of knowledge is related to preferences: The farther their guesses were from Ukraine’s actual location, the more they wanted the U.S. to intervene with military force.

They cannot find the Ukraine because they are too busy looking for Malaysia Plane, perhaps.