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The first time I went to a beach in Europe, I was like “OH HOLY SHIT.”
I was very young, and my Anglo-Saxon brain nearly exploded.
This is a complex issue.
BBC:
France’s interior minister has defended topless sunbathing after police asked a group of women on a Mediterranean beach to cover up.
The three were approached by officers on the beach in Sainte-Marie-La-Mer following a complaint from a holidaying family.
The incident generated a huge backlash against the officers.
Backing the women, the minister, Gérald Darmanin, tweeted: “Freedom is a precious commodity”.
He said it was wrong the women were asked to put on clothing.
A press release posted on Facebook by the Pyrenees-Orientales police said the incident happened last week.
Two officers asked three people on the beach to cover their chests, after a request from a family concerned about children present.
No description of the family. But we all get it immediately.
“Guided by a desire for appeasement, the police asked the people concerned if they would agree to cover their chest after they explained the reason for their approach,” it said.
“No municipal order forbids this practice [topless sunbathing] in Sainte-Marie-la-Mer.”
Their action prompted a wave of criticism online. Some questioned a wave of “prudishness” sweeping France, while others questioned if the practice was now banned.
What a complex situation.
I am hit with two immediate reactions here, at the same time:
- These whores should be beaten and raped
- This is a clear sign of the Islamization of Europe and I stand with these whores
The beaches are effectively nude model shows, where these women go to have men look at them. The first time I saw it, I was shocked, scandalized, fascinated, outraged and delighted. But I was not the only one walking up and down the beach viewing the show. It is clearly the goal of these women and it is understood to be what is going on at beaches throughout Europe.
This famous photo from Cannes in 1980 when the practice first started demonstrates the entire concept:
My immediate reactionary response to this is that they should cover up not only their nipples, but their entire bodies, or they should be beaten by cops.
I think they went too far in the fifties.
I just can’t see any situation where women being allowed to parade around like this, sexually exploiting men with their bodies, is okay.
That said, I am extremely uncomfortable with the idea of Moslems determining the cultural norms of Europe, which is very obviously what is happening here.
I don’t think it is even possible to have the discussion within the current context. Obviously, no one is asking these women to cover up for any other reason than because Moslems are outraged.
So that’s my position: I don’t want to have this conversation.
What I do not want to see is:
- Right-wingers reflexively siding with sluts against Islam
- The reverse
Islam is right about women. That is simply a natural fact of basic reality, which cannot be denied or dissected. But this having been stated plainly, when it becomes a political situation, you cannot back the Moslems, as this gives them more political power and openly emboldens them.
Basically: we have bigger issues than titty bitches, and this issue should be left alone. If French right-wingers want to comment on it, they should say what I just said. They definitely should NOT say that they are trying to protect sexual freedom from the Moslems. This is a horrible strategy; the people that want that sort of thing are a tiny and irrelevant group.
The bulk of right-wingers are Christians, who want Christian values, and oppose Moslems on these grounds. That needs to be the position of any and all populist right-wingers.
Here’s the issue: a decadent and depraved culture is not defensible from anyone, let alone from Moslems, who at least in theory maintain a stable and family-oriented conservative culture. The only way we are ever going to fight these people is with an equally stable and family-oriented culture.
