Is this the fifth or sixth impeachment? I don’t even think I can count this high.
The Justice Department said “efforts were likely taken to obstruct the government’s investigation” of documents at former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home months before FBI agents searched the Florida estate in early August. Investigators said they found records in places other than the storage room where Mr. Trump’s lawyers had assured them all were held.
A court filing late Tuesday objecting to Mr. Trump’s proposal that the seized documents be vetted by a third-party arbiter laid out the government’s most detailed timeline yet of the events that led to the unprecedented search of the premises.
The 36-page document underscored the urgency with which the Justice Department believed it needed to secure the classified material after Mr. Trump’s team failed to relinquish all of it during several less invasive attempts to retrieve it earlier this year.
Those steps included a grand jury subpoena issued to Mr. Trump’s team in May seeking all classified documents from the premises.
Just a reminder: it is impossible for the president to steal classified documents. It’s basically the same thing as “spousal rape” – it is legally impossible (or it was until Jews decided to confuse ancient law for their own purposes).
Also, presidents regularly take stores of documents to work on their memoirs.
Also, Hillary Clinton wasn’t prosecuted for actually committing this crime – the FBI said they weren’t prosecuting her because she was famous and it would be socially negative to prosecute a famous politician.
According to the government’s filing, a representative of Mr. Trump handed over an accordion folder of documents when FBI agents visited the Palm Beach property on June 3. Another representative then attested in writing that the team had supplied “any and all documents that are responsive to the subpoena,” according to the filing.
Further investigation showed that not to be the case, the Justice Department said.
What was the investigation? Was it more electronic spying? Because it sounds to me like he had handed over the physical copies of the documents and they are preparing to claim he had electronic copies, which they know because they hacked his computers (on yet another fishing expedition).
Of course, electronic copies could be easily faked. Even physical copies could be faked, because they wouldn’t let Trump’s lawyers witness the search. (They carried out boxes of physical paper, but they’re admitting most or all of that was just stuff they found and didn’t know what it was. They admit that they took documents protected by attorney-client privilege, they’re just saying they won’t use those to build their case.)
“The FBI uncovered multiple sources of evidence indicating that the response to the May 11 grand jury subpoena was incomplete and that classified documents remained at the Premises, notwithstanding the sworn certification made to the government on June 3,” the filing said.
“The government also developed evidence that government records were likely concealed and removed from the Storage Room and that efforts were likely taken to obstruct the government’s investigation,” the Justice Department said.
A spokesman for Mr. Trump didn’t immediately return a request seeking comment.
Two lawyers for Mr. Trump, Evan Corcoran and Christina Bobb, were at Mar-a-Lago on June 3. No one present on that day said Mr. Trump had declassified documents or asserted any claim of executive privilege, the Justice Department wrote in the filing, casting doubt on arguments his team has advanced in weeks since the seizure.
That isn’t the way that works, lol.
There is a time when WSJ would have been ashamed to print that sentence without noting that the feds are lying. Now they just go along with the idea that everyone in America is a retard who has no basic understanding of the law.
The Aug. 8 search, in which agents carted away more than two dozen boxes including 11 sets of classified documents, set off a furious political response, with some GOP lawmakers rallying around the former president as he signals he might make another bid for the White House in 2024.
U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon has scheduled a Thursday hearing on Mr. Trump’s Aug. 22 motion asking for the appointment of a special master—an arbiter who reviews evidence and decides whether some materials are protected by legal doctrines like attorney-client privilege.
Mr. Trump’s legal team will be led by Chris Kise, a former Florida solicitor general with deep ties to the GOP whose appointment became public on Tuesday.
The Justice Department has opposed the request on multiple grounds, including that it wouldn’t make sense at this juncture. The Justice Department has said a group of lawyers and investigators known as a filter team had already segregated any documents that are potentially subject to attorney-client privilege. The filter team is separate from the team handling the Justice Department’s continuing criminal investigation.
Yeah, that’s the USSR on steroids. Much worse than anything that happened in the USSR, actually – at least in the USSR, people didn’t have the same pretense of Constitutional legal protections, and knew they were playing by house rules.
What even is this?
I thought they were going to prosecute him as a terrorist for January 6?
This is like after they acted like they were going to prosecute him for being a Russian agent, then accused him of colluding with the Jewish blood enemy of the Russians in the Ukraine.
They built this January 6 thing up, expended all this energy, then their final indictment is going to be some gibberish out of left field about tricking the Justice Department about classified documents that couldn’t have been classified. I suppose this hoax has more of a “gray area” than the January 6 thing, where either Trump told people to riot or didn’t.
I watched the Tucker Carlson interview with Paul Manafort yesterday. It’s kind of good. Sort of long, but I found it interesting.
I’m sure Manafort was a scumbag, having been involved with some pretty shady shit in the Ukraine and shady GOP RINO bullshit before that, but it seems like he really did have some Christian epiphanies in prison. He was in solitary confinement for 9 months (though apparently he had books and a radio, which really isn’t that bad – the biggest torture element of solitary is keeping the person locked in their own head – that’s what causes the brain to shrink.)
Further: he had some kind of moral fortitude before prison, acting on Mafia rules about cooperation with the feds.
Anyway, his narrative about his life is goofy and not true, but he kind of seems like he believes it, and it was interesting to listen to. He’s a smart guy. But what I was interested in was his analysis of the Trump 2024 situation – he said that there is a 100% chance Trump will be indicted, a 0% chance he will end up going to prison, and implied a pretty good chance he’ll win the nomination and the election. I don’t really agree with those numbers, but it was interesting to get the analysis of a smart guy who knows the game.
I think even after having been to prison for nothing, however, he still doesn’t understand how bad things really are. I don’t really think the goal of indictment would be to put Trump in prison, I think the goal would be to promote Ron DeSantis as “the only viable GOP candidate.”
When this nightmare gets worse later, they can just do a Gavin McInnes on Trump – that is to say, the prosecution will not be related to whether or not he ends up in prison in the end.
Whatever. As I’ve said, I think the 2024 campaign is worthwhile either way, just strategically in terms of the public mind.