UK Universities Outraged as Male Students Get Lawyers to Fight Against Fake Rape Allegations

Universities have set up rape courts in America and the UK.

It’s very strange that this is supposedly a very serious and very real crime, but also, it can be adjudicated in a fake court where the punishment is expulsion from college.

The Guardian:

Parents of male students accused of rape at university are starting to bring in barristers to help them avoid expulsion, the Observer has learned.

As the number of serious sexual assaults escalates across universities, experts say female students often do not want to go to the police, fearing delays and traumatising questioning, and knowing only 1% of rape cases end in conviction. Universities say increasing numbers of women are instead turning to them to investigate, leaving institutions wrestling with complex cases, including a rising trend of pornography-inspired strangulation during sex.


Good girls really want drunk sex with a stranger in a dorm room to be very romantic.

A student conduct panel, often comprising academics, support staff and students, takes evidence from both sides and decides whether a student has broken the rules by committing sexual misconduct and should be suspended or expelled. Universities stress this is not like a court of law.

Prof Sir Steve West, the vice-chancellor of the University of the West of England and president of Universities UK until earlier this year, said: “As expulsion is a penalty, parents of the accused often start to raise the stakes by hiring a lawyer. It is a power game, because usually the victim has no representation, and I think it is completely unacceptable and unfair.”

If you’re going to make accusations of crimes, you’re going to need a lawyer. If you don’t want to have your accused hire lawyers, don’t accuse him.

West said that parents “rarely tell us that they’re going to do this in advance”, typically turning up with a lawyer to the final student conduct committee hearing. He worries that this will “drive silence”, with victims frightened of being subjected to exactly the sort of adversarial investigation they wanted to avoid by not complaining to the police.

Smita Jamdar, a partner at the law firm Shakespeare Martineau who advises universities on sexual assault hearings, said: “There are increasing numbers of students choosing to bring cases of sexual misconduct of all sorts to their university rather than the police, and increasing numbers of very serious allegations.” She added that choking and sadomasochism (S&M) were now “not uncommon”.

Yeah, maybe legalizing pornography wasn’t great for society, I guess?

Not really sure how it’s a crime. This really amounts to “that sex I had with that stranger when I was drunk wasn’t fun at all – someone should have to pay for this!”

Jamdar said institutions often brought her firm in because an accused student had hired a lawyer and the university needed support. “Everyone ends up arguing over legal principles that are utterly bamboozling to most student conduct panels,” she said.

She is worried about the impact on victims of two recent high court cases where a UK university found a student guilty but the court overturned the finding, saying the process had not been fair.

She said: “The court has said that as these are serious allegations, very often it would be reasonable to allow legal representation, and you should subject the person who has made the complaint to rigorous and probing questions.” The complainant can appear by video link but must answer these questions, the judge said.

Jamdar said universities had worked hard to encourage reporting of attacks and that this had “really thrown a spanner in the works”.

If you have widespread sexual promiscuity in society, with girls who are not professional prostitutes engaging in behavior previously reserved for professional prostitutes (having sex with strangers), then you pretty much just have to say “whatever is going to happen is going to happen.”

If a girl gets kidnapped and beaten up, okay. But this idea of “special university courts for girls who had a bad sexual experience while drunk with a stranger” is clearly ridiculous.

The fact that they are whining about real lawyers being brought in just proves that it’s ridiculous. If you can’t deal with lawyers, don’t accuse someone of a crime. If you don’t want to have bad sexual experiences, don’t get drunk and have sex with strangers.